Jem
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Post by Jem on Jan 11, 2014 9:22:33 GMT
Just wondering what other makes people have high regard for? I had a vintage Koga-Miyata for a while and it was a classy bike with classy components and rode very smoothly. Problem was it was a couple of inches too small, and the handling was way too twitchy (as a consequence of being over the front wheel, or just because of the design, I don't know?) I also own a late 1980's very early kind of mountain bike by Raleigh (but in reality it's a hybrid) which is a great work horse and general short tour bike. I have had Dawes in the past and even had the Dawes Galaxy tandem for a while (great fun!) I often keep my eye out for interesting less well known bikes and just spotted this....I like the look of it! Silver Shadow by Vista. Shimano 600 set up. What do other people ride or keep an eye out for?
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Post by whippet on Jan 11, 2014 15:27:36 GMT
- Main bike now is a titanium Spa Tourer, dead comfy / does everything. - A Mercian Audax that I had built in 2000. - A hard tail Decathlon mountain bike that's 12 years old but a good spec. Stuck in shed. - Newest purchase: a "motorhome" bike = hub geared cube hybrid. Horrid alloy frame.
Haven't bought that 3 Speed Viscount Pullman..... Yet.
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Post by sprockit on Jan 11, 2014 19:19:02 GMT
BSA (think it's an R6) 3-speed with gear hub stamped March 1964 in 40-spoke back wheel, and Dynohub built into 32-spoke front wheel. Bought it as a hack and going-to-work bike in 1993. Now use it for canal towpaths and general knocking-about on.
Also have my eye on that 3-speed Viscount Pullman . . . and watching the price come gradually down!!
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Post by whippet on Jan 11, 2014 19:44:39 GMT
Only dropped a fiver, shame the frame size is a bit small for me.
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Post by Stella on Jan 11, 2014 20:21:48 GMT
As you know, I have a 3-speed sit-up-and-beg mamachari. Shimano Nexus hub gear and front hub dynamo. Great bike for rain or short urban trips. On the heavier side, but love it to bits.
I quite like a Koga Miyata. Particularly when specs are good: TA chain set and Shimano 600 group set. Seen at a bike recently, but the frame was bent.
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bendo
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Post by bendo on Jan 11, 2014 22:55:09 GMT
I have a Routens 650B randonneur bike, which has been getting a bit of use lately since the Supa Sport has been out of action. Stella, I just got back from Japan last month and saw lots and lots of mamachari there. They are, by a long way, the most common bike on the road. Everyone rides step-through framed bikes, they're not just 'for girls'. I even have a pic of a beautiful stainless steel framed Koga-Miyata mamachari somewhere, which I will post for you. b
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Post by Stella on Jan 11, 2014 23:50:06 GMT
I have a Routens 650B randonneur bike, which has been getting a bit of use lately since the Supa Sport has been out of action. Stella, I just got back from Japan last month and saw lots and lots of mamachari there. They are, by a long way, the most common bike on the road. Everyone rides step-through framed bikes, they're not just 'for girls'. I even have a pic of a beautiful stainless steel framed Koga-Miyata mamachari somewhere, which I will post for you. b Oh, that would be exciting. Didn't know you were in Japan. How interesting. I have friends over there. Not sure if you knew that I worked in a bike shop here in London that only sells mamacharis, so I'm very familiar with their quirks. Fantastic sturdy bikes, and you're right, in Japan everyone rides step through. Although there are some very subtle differences--some bikes are indeed step through for men. :-) Mine is a more 'modern' one, a Bridgestone Lococo. I test rode it over the weekend after servicing it (the shop sells second hand bikes), and promptly fell in love, so I didn't give it back. Speaking of test-riding: I went to visit the shop I'll have an interview at next week. The owner looked at my brand-spanking new Viscount and asked if he could take it for a spin. Of course I let him, proud as. He really enjoyed it and was VERY impressed with the sharp brakes. I basically floated out of the shop.
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bendo
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Post by bendo on Jan 12, 2014 0:14:10 GMT
Found it! b
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Jem
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Post by Jem on Jan 12, 2014 10:18:27 GMT
I've been quite tempted to drop the seller of the Pullman a line and offer what I believe to be a sensible price...however, I have no shed space at all (and I have now moved on to my Son's shed which really isn't fair) . I do feel it is different enough to justify owning it and riding it just to go to the shops etc. I think it would be fun. I think it's in York (?) which is also just a bit too long of a run to fetch on a Saturday morning, It would be more of a full day trip.
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Post by whippet on Jan 12, 2014 14:10:43 GMT
In in York in July. Should be down to £25 by then.
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Post by velocipete on Jan 12, 2014 18:04:35 GMT
Let me see, excluding the Viscounts,the operational machines in my storage facility are;- Tony Oliver road bike. Tony Oliver tandem. Ex's Tony Oliver ladies tourer. Monoc road bike,Campag record 10. Not used much as a harsh ride,18mm tyres. Kirk Revolution, the only mountain bike I've ever owned! Harsh ride, frame as stiff as!!!!! Peter Ross Trice trike dating from 1989. Currently dressed up as my soap box racer. W & E Pollard 531 frame tourer,usable but in need of another respray. 2 Clifton Cycles,'50's-60's bikes from a very small Birkenhead builder in the process of rebuild. An F frame 1964 Moulton delux. So many bikes, not enough decent weather to ride them!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers, Pete. Ps. I know I have a problem. It's called storage.
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Post by Stella on Jan 12, 2014 20:51:52 GMT
Found it! b
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Post by Stella on Jan 12, 2014 20:55:57 GMT
Uhh, thanks, Bendo. Yes, that's a very typical mamachari, which I'd recognise everywhere now, though the basket is unusual. The same material is normally used for the mama bikes (with integrated child seat). Looks very much like a 26" bike. White-walled tyres are also rather typical, so is the skirt and chain guards. Looks in pretty good nick. Did you ride it? I'm soon getting a centre stand for mine, don't like the kickstand too much. Did you know that they often have a two-material frame? Alloy and steel and they're glued together. This one looks like such a bike as alloy's TIG-welded with large, ugly connections.
Gee, do I sound like a show-off or what? lol That's four months of working exclusively on mamacharis. Forgive me.
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Post by Stella on Jan 12, 2014 20:57:48 GMT
Let me see, excluding the Viscounts,the operational machines in my storage facility are;- Tony Oliver road bike. Tony Oliver tandem. Ex's Tony Oliver ladies tourer. Monoc road bike,Campag record 10. Not used much as a harsh ride,18mm tyres. Kirk Revolution, the only mountain bike I've ever owned! Harsh ride, frame as stiff as!!!!! Peter Ross Trice trike dating from 1989. Currently dressed up as my soap box racer. W & E Pollard 531 frame tourer,usable but in need of another respray. 2 Clifton Cycles,'50's-60's bikes from a very small Birkenhead builder in the process of rebuild. An F frame 1964 Moulton delux. So many bikes, not enough decent weather to ride them!!!!!!!!!!! Cheers, Pete. Ps. I know I have a problem. It's called storage. I'm not surprised. I only have four bikes and am already struggling with my tiny shed.
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Post by triitout on Feb 4, 2014 19:35:21 GMT
Wow, so many new topics that I missed while being inattentive. I really like the idea of retaining the "old" as in Viscount but also mixing in the "new". Each have their pro's and cons. Bicycles are like ice cream. I've got my favorite flavors but there are so many to taste. I've put way more miles on my Vitus 979 than anything else. Anodized aluminum is just a remarkably beautiful finish. Yes, it too has an aluminum fork. It's now my indoor winter sweat bike. I've got a Kona Koa rigid mountain bike which I used primarily to haul my daughter around in the kid seat when she was little. Great fun! I rode a Kestrel 500 sci carbon fiber tri bike for about 10 years (1999-2009). It handled poorly, was uncomfortable but at the time, the fastest bike I owned for racing triathlons. I've since added a Trek Madone 5.2 which is a great riding, fast bike for the road and racing and a Motobecane Le Champion Sl Ti bike. I really like the ride of titanium and very esthetically pleasing with the brushed bare metal lugless frame. Standardizing my fit and dimensions as close as possible has been the key to enjoying jumping between the different bikes. One thing that really makes the biggest difference in old vs new is not the weight or material or even shifting and gear range, but the handlebar width and drop. I've found the newer, wider (42 or 44cm) shallow drop bars to make a huge difference in comfort and stability compared to the old very narrow, deep drop standard issue Viscount bars. Putting the newer bars on my Pro and SS conversion have really made them the equal in comfort and fit to the newer bikes. Made the wife happy with a new floor bike stand that holds 6 of the precious darlings in a little alcove area of the basement so they're no longer falling over on each other. I now refer to it as the "MAN ALCAVE".
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Post by whippet on Feb 4, 2014 21:50:18 GMT
I'd love a man cave / basement. Current negotiations with Mrs Whippet about setting up a permanent turbo trainer are not going well.
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Post by velocipete on Feb 4, 2014 22:33:31 GMT
I'd love a man cave / basement. Current negotiations with Mrs Whippet about setting up a permanent turbo trainer are not going well. Tell her the bike on the turbo trainer will not be a Viscount. If that doesn't work,she should know by now that if you do use a Viscount it'll be off to the pub before you know what's happened!! That should sort it. Cheers, Pete.
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Post by triitout on Feb 5, 2014 4:31:39 GMT
I'd love a man cave / basement. Current negotiations with Mrs Whippet about setting up a permanent turbo trainer are not going well. Remind Mrs Whippet that she'll know where to find you and that we could name dozens more expensive and less healthy afflictions and addictions. I was lucky enough to carve out my man alcove from an otherwise totally useless corner so if you can convince her that you've found a totally useless spot in your house……..you might get your man alcove too! Did you have any luck tightening up the shift levers???
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Post by foss on Feb 22, 2014 8:23:31 GMT
The Viscount is my 5th bicycle , in order of purchase ... Giant CRSA , bought for a LEJOG trip in 2010 Pashley Guv'nor , now converted to a 5 speed hub as I live close to the south downs I can't go very far without coming across a hill . Specialized Rock hopper also because of the south downs ( will do the SDW this year ) 1934 Raleigh Dawn 'X' for vintage rides I partake in and now "Biscuit" my mystery Viscount
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Post by hunterliney on Feb 22, 2014 21:33:51 GMT
I've got:-
a Trek 800 Mountain trek - a heavy duty hybrid bought new in 1993, little used and mostly standard - lovely classic mtb.
an early Dawes Karakum, one previous owner - a little small for me but rideable - may end up being SWMBOs if it fits her. (now I've checked the Trek over)
a Raleigh Mercury classic 10 speed on the turbo trainer.
and as of tomorrow a ......................... A Viscount Lambert Aerospace Sport - I'll be the 3rd owner.
Regards
Alyn
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rmw
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Post by rmw on Feb 22, 2014 22:18:21 GMT
As some of you know I've had my Viscount from new 1978. My usual bike since 1999 is the Witcomb, a 1980s steel touring bike, bought second hand. Originally bought so that I had something to ride while the Viscount had its bottom bracket sorted (Argos in Bristol). Favoured for its load-carrying capacity, which became important in 2001 when the nipper was plonked in a child seat. I preferred a child seat secured to braze-ons over p-clips on the Viscount. Also I don't want to wear out the Viscounts 27" rims. We also have a tandem, a beautiful Bob Jackson that was given to me! It looks very beautiful indeed since its refurb by Chris Hewitt, including respray in Leeds.
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Post by goldie on Mar 29, 2014 23:41:49 GMT
There are basically three non-Viscount options. First of all, there's a massive British Eagle Inferno, which I got from a lad who was about to throw it into Stretford Tip. It has since made up for its totally lack of capital cost by consuming chains, tyres, seatposts, brake cables and various other components at an alarming rate. It gets used for commuting, collecting the Fruday night takeaway and (as you can see from the photo) bringing bottles of Frijj back from the Co-Op, one at a time. Second, there's the Viking Superstar. My first drop handlebar bike when I was young was a Viscount, but my second ws a metallic blue Viking - and this is the grown up version. It shamed itself by dumping me at the side of the road after the bearing race in the rear hub collapsed, when I was indulging in a spot of ill advised racing with a lad on a titanium Van Nicholas. As a result, it is on the bike stand while I try and build it a new back wheel using some bits I found in the cellar. And last but certainly not least is this Claud Butler Electron Super Five - bottom of the range or thereabouts when it was built, but just lovely to ride - light, comfortable and extremely quick. And very, very orange. I've got plans for the future, involving replacing the Viking with the Aerospace 600AX frame that is hanging up in the cellar. And I keep promising myself some custom made steel at some point...
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Jem
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Post by Jem on Mar 30, 2014 10:45:06 GMT
In a dark distant part of my mind that stores bike facts , I seem to think Viking had some link with Lambert right at the start?
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Post by goldie on Mar 30, 2014 22:57:31 GMT
That's right, I think Lambert bought the Viking name after Viking went out of business in the 1960's. There used to be a lovely but overpiced Viking badged Lambert on ebay for months at a stretch.
By the time my Viking(s) were built, the name had been sold again. My bike was built in Northern Ireland in "the most advanced cycle factory in the world", according to the over excited catalogue.
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bendo
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Post by bendo on Apr 11, 2014 0:17:05 GMT
Here's a recent 'resto' job I did on an early 90s Giant MTB. Someone had replaced the original wheels with a nice Mavic UST wheelset: fewest spokes I've ever had. Lots to like about it: steel, rigid box-crown forks, Deore groupset. I spent about 10x the purchase price updating the cockpit, rings, cables and so on. Learning about bar-end shifters was fun. 9 speed rear cassette feels pointless though (previous owner's upgrade). 8 would have been plenty. Had thought it for my son to ride to high school next year, but alas! my grasp of MTB frame geometry was shaky. I looked at the short headtube and assumed it was a small frame. Little did I know they all have "small' frames! Even though it has a horizontal top tube so is not strictly speaking a 'compact' frame, this bike's geometry is nonetheless similar in that the taller rider is accommodated by how far out all the bits stick out of the frame: to whit—loooong seat post and massively long riser handlebar stem. It wasn't until I put the new cockpit in (with v short stem) and got my son on it, at which point I saw he still could hardly reach the bars, that I measured the top tube: 59cm! No wonder. Anyway, now I have a fun little cyclocross/gravel™ bike which he will grow into one day anyway. Posca pen art by me, inspired by the scribblings of Dario Pegoretti. Some more pics here.
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Post by Stella on Apr 13, 2014 12:09:23 GMT
That looks like a fun ride, Bendo. And yes, the MTB frames look tiny. I'll be looking at a Kona Cinder Cone (looks like www.retrobike.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=110296) as a project. Don't think I'll be restoring it as the one I'll be given is pretty rusty, so the frame's paint isn't in good condition. But it'll be a great bike to work on, and maybe I'll take it to the forest for a proper dirt ride when done. ;-)
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Post by vtchuck on Aug 25, 2014 21:40:17 GMT
I've got a few in my stable: A Falcon San Remo 76. All 531, Campy, except for Weinmann Long Reach CP's, since replaced with SP brakes. Interesting round section track forks w/ road drop-outs: Falcon
Custom built Romic, '77 with Champion DB tubing and a mix of Campy, Cinelli & Japanese components: Romic
An '86 Raleigh USA Technium... Aluminum main triangle & Cro-mo forks & stays: Technium
A 1990 Trek 1400 (my "modern" road bike): Trek
Cheers Tom
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