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Post by vaslove on Aug 18, 2021 22:03:31 GMT
Hi, it's Busaste here. I'm now 'VASlove' because I could not remember my old password so had to register again. It's so long since I have been on the forum - the last 4 years have been awful for me - that the password I had written down ages ago did not work. I've sent an email to Jem about it so hopefully things will work out fine. I've lost my 'Guru' status as a result of my password cock up! Tut tut, this will not do.  In the meantime, I am having a parts clear-out. I am not a bike/parts collector. Never have been. My stash of goodies is purely there to keep my Viscount's running as these are the only bikes I ride. As I am 57 and getting ever creakier, I have accepted that I have to clear stuff out. I have parts in the shed, garage, under the bed, in my wardrobe(!), etc. that I will never get round to using even if I live to a 100. Hopefully I have something which forum members can put to good use! I have pictures of the parts below but they are too big to attach and I don't use a photo share website. Please PM me with your email address if you are interested so I can send my pictures to you. All NOS parts are as they were the day they rolled out of the Bilston factory. Okay, here we go, see if any of the following tickle your fancy: 1. A complete genuine NOS Viscount Aerospace chainset. Never used or fitted to a bike. Much of the parts have the original packaging/parts labels. The chainset is comprised of: LH and RH cranks 52 - 42 chainrings Bottom bracket, circlips, bearings, crank bolts Chainset nuts and bolts Condition of the parts is new. I think it's fair to say that a collection like the above is a bit on the rare side! Possibly the only one left out there? Price: £150 + postage
2. NOS Lambert brake levers Still in the original packaging. Price: £20 + shipping
3. NOS Viscount Aerospace and Lambert Campy style seat post.Never used or fitted to a bike. Still in the original packaging. Price: £35 + shipping
4. Used Genuine Viscount Aerospace and Lambert Chainsets'Lambert' stamped on outer 'porthole' chainring. Less than 100 miles on its teeth. Very shiny too! Price: £50 + shippingWell used set but teeth and tapers are good. Fairly shiny! Price £20 + shipping5. Used Birmalux 26.8mm alloy seat postVery few marks and nice and shiny. Price: £10 + shipping 6. NOS SR Sakae Ringyo Forged Handlebar stemNever used or fitted to a bike. Still in the original packaging. This was a OEM part to the later Viscount Aerospace Pro, Grand Sport and Sport. Also fitted to the Viscount Sebring. Price: £20 + shipping7. Used Shimano 'Titlist' Rear DerailleurAll good, works well. Feeeeeeeeeeeeeel the 70's Shimano build quality. OEM fitment to Viscount Aerospace GP and later Grand Sport Price: £15 + shippingI have a lot more parts to sell but as it's late now and I'm tired I am going to sign off. If there is any interest in the above then I would have to sell on a first to offer gets it basis. Hope that is okay. I will also list more if people are interested. Good news on my long delayed Lambert/Viscount book. Should be out next April. What it will be like, who is involved, etc. is quite complicated and worthy of a separate post. Also, I think one of the book 'team' John Purser may already have posted information about it on this forum. I'll look around the forum and post accordingly. After 4 bleak years, it is great to be back. Steve |
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Post by triitout on Aug 19, 2021 1:50:48 GMT
Steve, On behalf of everyone who has benefited from and enjoyed your posts and knowledge base, WELCOME BACK! Let the dark cloud of the last 4 years be lifted and banished for good. Cheers, Michael |
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Post by Admin on Aug 19, 2021 17:31:23 GMT
Hi, it's Busaste here. I've lost my 'Guru' status as a result of my password cock up! Tut tut, this will not do. After 4 bleak years, it is great to be back. Steve I couldn't find a way to bump you up Steve, so I did away with the post/star system to make it equal - I couldn't think of any other solution. Welcome back! |
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Post by wheelson on Aug 19, 2021 23:29:30 GMT
Steve, On behalf of everyone who has benefited from and enjoyed your posts and knowledge base, WELCOME BACK! Let the dark cloud of the last 4 years be lifted and banished for good. Cheers, Michael Steve, I have certainly benefited from your knowledge and it’s good to hear that you’re back. At 73 years old, I especially understand the concept of trimming back the bike stash. Sadly, it’s most difficult to do and for some reason, Lamberts and Viscounts are doubly so. Anyway, welcome back. Best, John “wheelson” |
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Post by oldroadietehachapi on Aug 20, 2021 2:40:14 GMT
Good to have you back!
Ride Safe
Jim
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Post by vaslove on Aug 20, 2021 17:40:16 GMT
Thanks for all the kind words. It is much appreciated!
It feels good to be back!
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Post by bendo on Sept 6, 2021 23:30:18 GMT
Great to have you back Steve. It's funny how we can get attached to people we've never met, eh? I suppose it's a sign that friendship has more to do with shared interest than other things like what you look like or what kind of job you have. I'm glad you've come out the other side of the tough times. b |
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Post by whippet on Sept 7, 2021 18:45:11 GMT
Great to see you back Steve.
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Post by whippet on Sept 16, 2021 18:02:45 GMT
Steve: what range of teeth do you think the Titlist rear mech would cope with?
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Post by cusqueno on Sept 17, 2021 9:37:25 GMT
Steve: what range of teeth do you think the Titlist rear mech would cope with? Hi. Disraeli gears gives: Maximum cog: 28 teeth (Sutherland’s 4th edition) and Total capacity: 28 teeth (Sutherland’s 4th edition) Velobase gives the Max chain wrap as 28T In my experience these figures can often be exceeded. The Titlist has a good reputation despite its unfortunate name. |
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Post by whippet on Sept 17, 2021 9:46:24 GMT
That’s much better than I thought actually. Can I have the titlist rear mech please Steve?
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Post by cusqueno on Sept 17, 2021 9:53:58 GMT
That’s much better than I thought actually. Can I have the titlist rear mech please Steve? If Steve gas a Titlist GS hidden away somewhere, that has a capacity of 34/34. The longer cage makes a big difference. |
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Post by wheelson on Sept 17, 2021 16:45:43 GMT
That’s much better than I thought actually. Can I have the titlist rear mech please Steve? If Steve gas a Titlist GS hidden away somewhere, that has a capacity of 34/34. The longer cage makes a big difference. Absolutely one of the best derailleurs ever. I’m running the Titlist GS rear and Titlist front on my blue Viscount, 14-32 five speed with a triple Viscount/Lambert crankset, 52-42-30 and absolutely beautiful shifting. I think the main difference was Crane had an aluminum cage and Titlist, steel. Might have been some difference in the cable fixing bolt ( a somewhat fragile system). The cages and most of the hardware interchange, also between the GS and short cage. Many of the less expensive Tourney bits and pieces do as well. There was also a “Schwinn Approved” version of the Crane GS back in 1974. The Crane always had flat topped unmarked pivot bolts while the other models had domed Shimano branding. Austro Daimler used the black Crane on its ‘74 Vent Noir. Again, one of the best shifting derailleurs ever. Best, John “wheelson” |
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Post by whippet on Sept 19, 2021 12:03:14 GMT
I’m currently running long cage Tourney with a skip tooth freewheel. It’s good except for the large jumps between gears. I was thinking changing to 6 speed and maybe reduce the range a tiny bit may help with these big jumps. On second thoughts though, I’m not sure it will make that much difference. 5 speed with skiptooth at least was an option when the bike was first made
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Post by wheelson on Sept 19, 2021 12:09:58 GMT
I’m currently running long cage Tourney with a skip tooth freewheel. It’s good except for the large jumps between gears. I was thinking changing to 6 speed and maybe reduce the range a tiny bit may help with these big jumps. On second thoughts though, I’m not sure it will make that much difference. 5 speed with skiptooth at least was an option when the bike was first made Tat was the gearing for the Japanese-made Schwinn World Voyageur as well. A gold “skip tooth” wide range 5 speed with a first generation Dura Ace crankset. Sort of like the Supa setup with wide range gearing. Best, John “wheelson” |
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Post by brianbutler on Sept 20, 2021 1:39:41 GMT
Maybe a Shimano long cage is the answer to my skipping problem with three different 34T Shimano skip tooth freewheels. They are all in nearly perfect condition but I cannot make them work with Suntour V-GT RD's. I have tried many different chains with no luck. Skipping is always on the smallest or second to smallest cog. I have a a Crane GS that I might try since both of you (whippet and wheelson) seem to be running OK with a similar combination. Perhaps something about the wrapping geometry is different.
Brian
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Post by whippet on Sept 20, 2021 17:59:27 GMT
Yes, apart from the big gap between gears, my skip tooth actually works very well.
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Post by triitout on Sept 21, 2021 0:53:03 GMT
I can vouch for the Shimano Tourney GS shifting well with a 14-32 skip tooth on my Sport. Somehow my Suntour Cyclone does OK with a 14-32, non skip tooth on the Gran Sports. It looks like a normal length cage compared to the Tourney GS and I don't know what it's spec'd for. It seems to be a bit more fiddly and slow with the shift than the Tourney GS. The best, cleanest shifting long cage I have is believe it or not the Huret Duopar Eco on my Gran Touring.
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Post by vaslove on Sept 27, 2021 19:53:59 GMT
Great to have you back Steve. It's funny how we can get attached to people we've never met, eh? I suppose it's a sign that friendship has more to do with shared interest than other things like what you look like or what kind of job you have. I'm glad you've come out the other side of the tough times. b Hi Ben Thanks for the kind words. It's great to hear from you. I know what you mean about getting attached to people you have never met. It really does happen! You red coloured DA equipped Viscount was a game changer for me back in the day and it really inspired me to make more of my Viscounts. I hope that amazing bike is still doing the business for you. |
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Post by vaslove on Sept 27, 2021 20:08:58 GMT
Steve: what range of teeth do you think the Titlist rear mech would cope with? Hey! Thanks for the kind words! Great to hear from you. Sorry for the sluggish response. Now then. The short cage Shimano Titlist is happy to shift up to a 28 tooth ring on the rear cog. Beyond that it's really going to struggle. But don't worry, Shimano made the 'GS' version of it to go right up to a 34 tooth ring on the freewheel. I had a Titlist GS RD for years which had no problem with this 'chicken legs' set up: 14-34T 5 spd freewheel 36-52T chainrings I think I might have another Titlist GS somewhere in my parts stash. Do you want to go this route? Please let me know. With the short cage Titlist something like this set up would be fine for fast road work: 14-28T 5 spd freewheel 40-52T chainrings By the way, the Titlist GS was made at the peak of Shimano's astounding build quality era in the 1970's (in my humble opinion). We had: Shimano Crane GS Shimano Titlist GS Shimano 600 GS Shimano Tourney GS What a list!! Incredibly long lasting, beautiful to look at, rugged, nice accurate shifting, innovative and reliable real world engineering excellence designed by engineers given a brief to obtain world dominance. Poor Campagnolo and Suntour - they could only watch as Shimano took over. |
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Post by vaslove on Sept 27, 2021 20:12:50 GMT
If Steve gas a Titlist GS hidden away somewhere, that has a capacity of 34/34. The longer cage makes a big difference. Absolutely one of the best derailleurs ever. I’m running the Titlist GS rear and Titlist front on my blue Viscount, 14-32 five speed with a triple Viscount/Lambert crankset, 52-42-30 and absolutely beautiful shifting. I think the main difference was Crane had an aluminum cage and Titlist, steel. Might have been some difference in the cable fixing bolt ( a somewhat fragile system). The cages and most of the hardware interchange, also between the GS and short cage. Many of the less expensive Tourney bits and pieces do as well. There was also a “Schwinn Approved” version of the Crane GS back in 1974. The Crane always had flat topped unmarked pivot bolts while the other models had domed Shimano branding. Austro Daimler used the black Crane on its ‘74 Vent Noir. Again, one of the best shifting derailleurs ever. Best, John “wheelson” The Crane GS is my favourite RD ever! |
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Post by vaslove on Sept 27, 2021 20:20:29 GMT
I’m currently running long cage Tourney with a skip tooth freewheel. It’s good except for the large jumps between gears. I was thinking changing to 6 speed and maybe reduce the range a tiny bit may help with these big jumps. On second thoughts though, I’m not sure it will make that much difference. 5 speed with skiptooth at least was an option when the bike was first made was the only option between 1975 - 1977 on the VA Sport. I love the look of the classic Shimano 14-34 Shimano skip tooth but shifts on it can be a tad clunky. For fast time trials you could put a 14-24 5 speed freewheel on with a short cage Titlist. Your Tourney GS RD is basically a Crane GS without the anodising and the long aluminium cage. I've been using Tourney GS's on a near weekly basis now since 1978. Near as dammit indestructible and a thing of beauty. |
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Post by vaslove on Sept 27, 2021 20:26:16 GMT
I can vouch for the Shimano Tourney GS shifting well with a 14-32 skip tooth on my Sport. Somehow my Suntour Cyclone does OK with a 14-32, non skip tooth on the Gran Sports. It looks like a normal length cage compared to the Tourney GS and I don't know what it's spec'd for. It seems to be a bit more fiddly and slow with the shift than the Tourney GS. The best, cleanest shifting long cage I have is believe it or not the Huret Duopar Eco on my Gran Touring. It's amazing how the Shimano GS's shift so well given that they do not use a slant parallelogram mechanism. Suntour's patents on this were still protected at the time the Crane, Titlist, Tourney and 600 were designed. "The best, cleanest shifting long cage I have is believe it or not the Huret Duopar Eco" Wow, that is a surprise. Hats off to Huret. |
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Post by whippet on Sept 28, 2021 6:46:14 GMT
Thinking about this Steve, I’ll keep the current set up which is period correct. It shifts fine after all. I have a second set of wheels with a corncob rear mech for TT’s anyway. The Touney works fine with that too.
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Post by vaslove on Oct 2, 2021 16:45:06 GMT
Thinking about this Steve, I’ll keep the current set up which is period correct. It shifts fine after all. I have a second set of wheels with a corncob rear mech for TT’s anyway. The Touney works fine with that too. Couldn't agree more! |
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Post by whippet on Oct 2, 2021 17:13:15 GMT
Thinking about this Steve, I’ll keep the current set up which is period correct. It shifts fine after all. I have a second set of wheels with a corncob rear mech for TT’s anyway. The Touney works fine with that too. Couldn't agree more! Different subject, have you still got the VFR800? I’ve just bought my old VFR750 back. |
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Post by vaslove on Oct 2, 2021 19:02:32 GMT
Maybe a Shimano long cage is the answer to my skipping problem with three different 34T Shimano skip tooth freewheels. They are all in nearly perfect condition but I cannot make them work with Suntour V-GT RD's. I have tried many different chains with no luck. Skipping is always on the smallest or second to smallest cog. I have a a Crane GS that I might try since both of you (whippet and wheelson) seem to be running OK with a similar combination. Perhaps something about the wrapping geometry is different. Brian Hi Brian Did the Crane GS solve the problem? "Skipping is always on the smallest or second to smallest cog" - I've had that problem with 2 skip tooth freewheels which looked to be in nearly perfect condition. I think it is nothing to do with chains or the RD. I think it is wear on the freewheel teeth. It doesn't take much to throw the chain off. When I had the same problem as you as an experiment I fitted a NOS skip tooth freewheel in place of the problem one. Result? Even though I did not replace the chain or chainrings, everything worked perfectly with the new freewheel. Steve |
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Post by brianbutler on Oct 2, 2021 23:19:02 GMT
Maybe a Shimano long cage is the answer to my skipping problem with three different 34T Shimano skip tooth freewheels. They are all in nearly perfect condition but I cannot make them work with Suntour V-GT RD's. I have tried many different chains with no luck. Skipping is always on the smallest or second to smallest cog. I have a a Crane GS that I might try since both of you (whippet and wheelson) seem to be running OK with a similar combination. Perhaps something about the wrapping geometry is different. Brian Hi Brian Did the Crane GS solve the problem? "Skipping is always on the smallest or second to smallest cog" - I've had that problem with 2 skip tooth freewheels which looked to be in nearly perfect condition. I think it is nothing to do with chains or the RD. I think it is wear on the freewheel teeth. It doesn't take much to throw the chain off. When I had the same problem as you as an experiment I fitted a NOS skip tooth freewheel in place of the problem one. Result? Even though I did not replace the chain or chainrings, everything worked perfectly with the new freewheel. Steve I haven't tried it yet but I will report back here when I do.
Brian
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Post by 54roadie on Oct 30, 2021 2:39:14 GMT
Hello Steve, and a belated welcome back from me. Here's hoping that the sun continues to shine, the wind stays always at your back, and the road stays right down there beneath your wheels, where it belongs. At least until you're well over 100.
Frank
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Post by vaslove on Feb 13, 2022 18:41:24 GMT
Hello Steve, and a belated welcome back from me. Here's hoping that the sun continues to shine, the wind stays always at your back, and the road stays right down there beneath your wheels, where it belongs. At least until you're well over 100. Frank Hey! Thanks Frank. Much appreciated. And all the best to you too!!! |
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