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Post by dracco on Mar 3, 2021 13:54:28 GMT
Picked up from another forum:
"I see that Canyon are having a bit of a problem with their new flagship road bike. They’ve stopped selling it for the time being and are recalling the seat posts pending a fix (or bodge depending on who you believe). And yesterday van der Poel finished a race with his Canyon handlebars in bits. The first issue is a design problem but the jury is still out on the second. "
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Post by franco on Mar 3, 2021 15:45:23 GMT
I wonder if it will impact the companies sales in general? Also, a MTB rider I know said Cannondale suffered some fork failures not long ago.
I get the impression it wasn’t just the ‘death fork’ that finished Viscount off but it didn’t help.
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Post by dracco on Mar 4, 2021 22:51:30 GMT
Now looking like a "Death Stem" or "Death Bars". Canyon have just issued a recall of their top-end bikes and told their race team partners to use the earlier model
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Post by whippet on Mar 13, 2021 19:33:40 GMT
Twice my wife has had Specialized bikes back for fork replacements under recall. Just seems to be par for the course these days.
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Post by theformeremployee on Mar 17, 2021 9:39:37 GMT
I get the impression it wasn’t just the ‘death fork’ that finished Viscount off but it didn’t help. The cast aluminium fork (and the 'Aerospace' lugless frames) had been progressively abandoned by Viscount, after the Bilston factory was closed at the end of 1977. There was a 'retreat' to the far smaller Potters Bar factory. Why close Bilston ? Yamaha Sporting Goods in the USA were still contracted to take container loads of bikes but could not sell them in the much reduced USA market. They simply refused to take more. Trusty (owner of the Viscount "brand") had been trying to build up alternative markets since 1974, in the UK, France, Australia and Holland but that can take years and the bikes were not always available - the USA took priority. The closing of Bilston brought that export effort to halt. Only the UK remained. The end of Trusty came when Middlemores, by then reinvented as the Shimano importer, petitioned for their bankruptcy in 1984. So to go off topic again, but, no, the forks' reputation didn't help - but a lot of other things didn't either....
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Post by franco on Mar 17, 2021 22:07:55 GMT
I get the impression it wasn’t just the ‘death fork’ that finished Viscount off but it didn’t help. The cast aluminium fork (and the 'Aerospace' lugless frames) had been progressively abandoned by Viscount, after the Bilston factory was closed at the end of 1977. There was a 'retreat' to the far smaller Potters Bar factory. Why close Bilston ? Yamaha Sporting Goods in the USA were still contracted to take container loads of bikes but could not sell them in the much reduced USA market. They simply refused to take more. Trusty (owner of the Viscount "brand") had been trying to build up alternative markets since 1974, in the UK, France, Australia and Holland but that can take years and the bikes were not always available - the USA took priority. The closing of Bilston brought that export effort to halt. Only the UK remained. The end of Trusty came when Middlemores, by then reinvented as the Shimano importer, petitioned for their bankruptcy in 1984. So to go off topic again, but, no, the forks' reputation didn't help - but a lot of other things didn't either.... Thanks for the info chap, very interesting and always appreciated.
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Post by theformeremployee on Mar 19, 2021 22:22:09 GMT
You are welcome - and may be interested to hear that "the book" took a leap forward yesterday. Start putting 1p an 2p coins in a collection jar to buy one for your 2021 Christmas reading. Between now and then, many more miles and smiles on Viscounts. The Lambert might be compared to the Titanic - great idea, poor execution. Considerably less loss of life, thankfully.
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Post by rmw on Oct 25, 2021 7:18:20 GMT
I did experience a seatpost failure, the Birmalux seat pin tore across the shoulder. I was riding home and the saddle kept tipping back. Assuming it was the clip I did some ‘manual adjustments’ but eventually stopped and had a proper look. Eek! Taxi home! This was after twenty years of service, so in the realm of fatigue not product failure.
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Post by wheelson on Oct 25, 2021 13:26:51 GMT
You are welcome - and may be interested to hear that "the book" took a leap forward yesterday. Start putting 1p an 2p coins in a collection jar to buy one for your 2021 Christmas reading. Between now and then, many more miles and smiles on Viscounts. The Lambert might be compared to the Titanic - great idea, poor execution. Considerably less loss of life, thankfully. Can’t wait for “the book” to make its appearance. Those of us who have the Lambert-Viscount Disorder are certainly saving up and ready. Thanks to all for all the effort involved to make this happen. So much bike history has been lost forever as seen on other forums as well. Best, John “wheelson”
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Post by cusqueno on Oct 26, 2021 10:13:04 GMT
I did experience a seatpost failure, the Birmalux seat pin tore across the shoulder. I was riding home and the saddle kept tipping back. Assuming it was the clip I did some ‘manual adjustments’ but eventually stopped and had a proper look. Eek! Taxi home! This was after twenty years of service, so in the realm of fatigue not product failure. I had this too. Saddle rocking back and forth, on dismounting found it was no longer attached to the bike. I rode home - slowly and very carefully, with the saddle balanced on the remains of the mount. I believe that Campagnolo parts can be used to replace the broken bits. Untitled by John Cockaday, on Flickr
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Post by bendo on Oct 26, 2021 11:01:47 GMT
I get the impression it wasn’t just the ‘death fork’ that finished Viscount off but it didn’t help. The cast aluminium fork (and the 'Aerospace' lugless frames) had been progressively abandoned by Viscount, after the Bilston factory was closed at the end of 1977. There was a 'retreat' to the far smaller Potters Bar factory. Why close Bilston ? Yamaha Sporting Goods in the USA were still contracted to take container loads of bikes but could not sell them in the much reduced USA market. They simply refused to take more. Trusty (owner of the Viscount "brand") had been trying to build up alternative markets since 1974, in the UK, France, Australia and Holland but that can take years and the bikes were not always available - the USA took priority. The closing of Bilston brought that export effort to halt. Only the UK remained. The end of Trusty came when Middlemores, by then reinvented as the Shimano importer, petitioned for their bankruptcy in 1984. So to go off topic again, but, no, the forks' reputation didn't help - but a lot of other things didn't either.... It's just gold knowing this kind of detail. Thank you! b
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