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Post by Admin on May 1, 2014 21:07:29 GMT
Hi All,
Just thought I'd re-post this and see if anyone can add to it?
I think it a worthwhile task just to gather all of the model names together in one place. Then to add the details would be great , such as colours, sizes, original price, weight, components (as far as possible ) and if mixte was available etc.
Please let me know any errors or omissions. Or feel free to copy and paste all of this into your own response and amend accordingly. (I realise my colour naming system is a very clumsy attempt, so feel free to suggest a more accurate one)
So , here goes...
Lambert - Trophy (Blue/white)
Lambert Super Sports (15 speed)
Aerospace (brazed)
The weights here for the Pro and GP are the 19.5" frame with no toe clips and straps
Pro-Grey/Black (clinchers) high flange hubs QR,weight 24lb 8oz FD Titlist 52/42 chainset RD Crane 14-28 -silver possibly RAL 7035?
or Grey/blue(tubs) high flange hubs QR ,weight 22lbs 7oz FD Titlist 52/42 RD Shimano Crane 14-24
GP -white/red or white and blue- weight 24lbs 13oz clinchers, high flange hubs QR, RD Shimano 14-28 FD Titlist 52/42, mixte too
Allrounder - same frame as GP but sit up and beg bars, comfy saddle (mens and mixte versions)
SE -
Sport -Blue or Red
(GPM?)
Gran Sport
Aerospace Club
Victor (semi lugged) -Red and Blue (same as the Sport?)
Sebring (lugged) Blue or Red (same as the Sport?) Mixte produced
V-1000gs
V-1000
V-2000
Gran Touring -1976 -Taxi Yellow /Sky Blue , brazed frame as GP & Pro
Grand Touring 12 - champagne or silver. 12 speed
Grand Touring (lugged ) mixte version in Gold or birch or silver
Grand Sport - goldish amber?
Grand Prix (Gran?) sky blue
Grand Prix 12- 12 speed, birch or anthracite
International- lugged Taiwanese frame, 5 speed, Shimano 500 or Simplex rear mech
Alamo International
Trophy International (lugged) town bike, 3 sp SA - Bronze colour
600AX-Shimano 600,colour= Linden Green comes from the BS5252 Colour Chart and has the number 12 E 53.. Weight 23lbs. Price when new £325
600EX- Weight 23lbs Price when new £250
400EX- Sky blue
18AX Deore -Shimano Deore 18 speed in metallic blue. Weight 29lbs. Price when new £275
18AX - Weight 28lbs Price when new £275
Viscount Corsair Wayfarer- Gold colour
World Tourer
Tony Doyle - white, red,
Sprint- Weight 26lbs Price when new £135
Team (KP Crisps/Kellogs/ '82?) all variants? White. Price when new £120
Turbo
Alamo
Super Sport
Fargo
Nevada
Denver
Colorado -Black
Tulsa GL- Gold (silver Mixte produced), black, blue (same as Sport)
Indy 500 -Sky Blue or Sand 1980
City Lady -pale pink
Mexico
Marathon
Rambler
Pullman
President
Metro - mid red or metalic blue Price when new £110
Spacemaster (folder)
Vista (folder)
Delta (folder)
Stroller (folder)
Sprite (Folder)
Trusty Typhoon (folder)
Runabout
Tourmaster
Maverick - kids bike
Fiesta - 18" kids bike racing style
Omnium
Pursuit
Venom BMX (gold components)
Supabike Dura Ace
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Post by sprockit on May 2, 2014 0:12:10 GMT
I have:-
Frame Number 001495 BK
International 'Special', red, fillet-brazed 23 1/2 inch frame, Lambert porthole chainwheel with cotterless crank, Viscount press-fit bottom bracket, 10-speed, Viscount brake calipers, Birmalux rims, Shimano shifters, Simplex rear derailleur, engraved bars.
Frame Number 336429
Sport, blue, lugged 23 1/2 inch frame, conventional bottom bracket with cottered cranks, 5-speed, Shimano Tourney brake calipers, van Schothorst rims,Shimano shifter, Simplex derailleur, Brooks Vitesse 200 saddle.
Mrs Sprockit has:-
La Scala - folding bike.
Sprockit
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Post by velocipete on May 2, 2014 15:06:29 GMT
Just finishing off my Frank N.Stein Sport,just the bar tape and ends to fit.
Currently equiped with the following;-
Sport frame in red.Crosslight alloy front fork,Prestine bottom bracket,fits well.
Stronglight crankset,rear wheel rebuilt on a Plessier small flange hub,front wheel
from a Bianchi scrounged from the tip in Swindon,6 speed free wheel 14-32,original
down tube shifters.
Weighed it on the bath room scales,22 pounds!!
I should find the hills a bit easier on DFR2.
I'll attempt to post some pics when the tape's on.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Post by sprockit on Jun 19, 2014 22:10:49 GMT
I've come to the conclusion that the various Viscount models were a hotch-potch!
I recently noticed a 10-speed Tulsa on eBay, then a week later there was a 5-speed Tulsa for sale!
Also for sale on t' 'Bay was an International 'Colorado GT', 5-speed with skip tooth freewheel, whereas just after DFR last year I acquired an International 'Special', 10-speed, with porthole chainwheel.
Was 'International' the model, or 'Colorado GT' and 'Special'?
And how many other forum members have a 5-speed 'Sport'?
We suspect that cash shortages led to differing components being 'chucked' on the bikes, but model names also seem to have been used on a whim.
Regards,
Sprockit
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Post by Jem on Jun 20, 2014 8:02:19 GMT
I agree. I gave up trying to do any kind of categorising with components on the list above as it all got a bit much for me. Likewise, putting them into model grouping just was too much for my brain. Anyway, I have posted this advert for the 'lost' model called the Allrounder before, but it struck me a few days ago when this Victor went through eBay, that it must have the original saddle and bars, as must the other Victor that Cusqueno spotted in Thame. Therefore, it's a quantity of Victor that went through using old stock from the Allrounder. Almost creating a sub-model offshoot of the Victor in it's own right?    |
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Post by Stella on Jun 20, 2014 11:53:50 GMT
I feel the same. I think the only ones that were clearly to identify were the Lamberts (all three GPs), the Pros, although they also came with either the TA/SR chain set or the port hole ones, and the Sports. All other models are a little mish mashy. Victor and Sebring both came with semi lugging, by the way. I have the blue one in that picture above, which is now yellow. Weird they used this wonderful Aerospace frame and botched it up with steel/cheap components.
Edited to add: the Victor and Sebring might have been just a cheaper version of the Lambert Allrounder, to target a wider market. Like some of the Sport models and the Sprint are lugged steel frames (I mean not chromoly).
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Post by sprockit on Aug 6, 2014 21:36:13 GMT
Hopefully this should show Mrs Sprockit's Viscount La Scala. Badge-engineered, it was produced in Italy and has 24-inch wheels, as opposed to the 20-inch on many folding bikes.    |
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Post by Mark on Aug 14, 2014 18:18:17 GMT
I agree. I gave up trying to do any kind of categorising with components on the list above as it all got a bit much for me. Likewise, putting them into model grouping just was too much for my brain. Anyway, I have posted this advert for the 'lost' model called the Allrounder before, but it struck me a few days ago when this Victor went through eBay, that it must have the original saddle and bars, as must the other Victor that Cusqueno spotted in Thame. Therefore, it's a quantity of Victor that went through using old stock from the Allrounder. Almost creating a sub-model offshoot of the Victor in it's own right? |
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Post by Mark on Aug 14, 2014 18:22:20 GMT
I purchased the Red Viscount in the picture and converted it to a single speed. I know it's kind of sacrilegious but many of the parts
and components were not in good shape and original parts are expensive.
It's a wonderful bike. Lovely ride. It's pounding the streets of London having been resurrected.
Ill stick on some pictures when I get a chance.
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Post by Jem on Aug 14, 2014 18:32:46 GMT
I purchased the Red Viscount in the picture and converted it to a single speed. I know it's kind of sacrilegious but many of the parts and components were not in good shape and original parts are expensive. It's a wonderful bike. Lovely ride. It's pounding the streets of London having been resurrected. Ill stick on some pictures when I get a chance. Mark - I won't judge, I just think it's great that you got it up & running & are getting good use from it. If you still have saddle, mudguards & bars etc I'd be interested as I am doing a bit of an homage to the Allrounder. Edit -Mark, just read your post again (more slowly this time) and realise it wasn't the Allrounder you bought but the one above. Therefore ignore my request for the original parts you might have no use for. I was looking for the parts from the 'Allrounder'. |
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Post by Jem on Aug 14, 2014 21:06:16 GMT
Hopefully this should show Mrs Sprockit's Viscount La Scala. Badge-engineered, it was produced in Italy and has 24-inch wheels, as opposed to the 20-inch on many folding bikes.  I really like the chain guard and the decal on it. How is Mrs Sprockit finding it? |
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Post by sprockit on Aug 21, 2014 16:57:59 GMT
She really loves it thanks Jem.
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Post by sprockit on Aug 21, 2014 17:40:58 GMT
More pictures of Mrs Sprockit's Viscount La Scala. It's a large Italian-built folding bike with 24 inch wheels, and the tyres are 24x1.75. A size-comparison shot beside my International which has 27 inch wheels and a 23 1 1/2 inch frame  Drive side  Non-drive side  Frame transfer/decal  Sturmey Archer 3-speed AW hub gear, date stamped February 1982  Bottom bracket adjustable cup and serrated lock nut  Locking mechanism  Brake levers . . .  . . . and calipers  Neat reflector on rear mudguard, and pump under rear rack  Saddle is plastic and a bit on the rigid side, so backsides need to be hardened before long usage - or changed for one that is more forgiving on the old posterior! All-in-all a lovely bike - small enough to save some space, but big enough to do some serious riding. Sprockit |
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Post by velocipete on Aug 21, 2014 18:27:40 GMT
Ah, Yorkshire,lurking under a 5 bar gate. Mrs Sprockit did well to get the folder up there.
Not to mention you on your International.
Thought there may have been snow up there, as it's b cold down here!
Well done both.
Cheers,
Pete,
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Post by Jem on Aug 22, 2014 8:31:19 GMT
I like the pump storage 'solution'. Very clever.
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Post by sprockit on Aug 23, 2014 18:43:35 GMT
Inox stainless steel mudguards ooze quality, and the chainguard is a chrome plated one from the same manufacturer.
Local bike shop owner thought it was rather a good quality bike.
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Post by velocipete on Aug 24, 2014 8:24:54 GMT
For all you London folk,there's a Viscount Skylark,18" wheel bike on the bay.
£39.95 BIN.Not heard of that model before.More badge engineering?
Cheers,
Pete.
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Post by Admin on Mar 7, 2015 11:45:24 GMT
I've have just updated the list to include the Venom BMX bike.(waiting for citation though- in true Wikipedia style)
When I get time, I will link every listed model name to a posting and photo's of that model.
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Post by triitout on Mar 24, 2015 2:09:43 GMT
I think this is a better place to add info on the Viscounts of the thousand series including a junior racer, motocross series, and "exclusive" (and legible!) dealer price of the aerospace models. Also, special for Whippet and Busaste, I obtained the Yamaha factory photo sent to dealers of the Aerospace Sport. All is now legible with model details and additional closeup pics of the V 7000 SS down to the 1000 model now on my Flickr acct. www.flickr.com/photos/98878999@N02/with/16724154448/Cheers, Did I mention, the dealers were making peanuts on these bikes. Its shocking to see invoice vs retail! |
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Post by whippet on Mar 24, 2015 8:19:33 GMT
Thanks Michael, almost a perfect match too my Sport there :-)
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Post by Jem on Mar 24, 2015 19:35:44 GMT
Thanks for those scans.
Those V series don't surface very often. Maybe they didn't sell many?
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Post by triitout on Mar 25, 2015 0:55:26 GMT
Think I saw one mid-level V series on C.L. once a long time ago. They were probably the last hurrah in the states. I'll bet few dealers were interested after the fork fiasco and slim markups. Never did find out who Roger Young & Associates are/were whose name appears as the licensee of Viscount in the USA on the page with the junior racers. These appear to be post Yamaha which makes the whole thing a deeper mystery. Did Roger end up with the old stock??? Where is Busaste when we need him?  !!!! |
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Post by velocipete on Jun 14, 2015 6:32:28 GMT
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Post by Jem on Jun 14, 2015 7:25:22 GMT
Link doesn't connect to anything Pete. |
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Post by velocipete on Jun 14, 2015 8:26:49 GMT
Try right click and open in a new window. I have to do that on any links on the forum.
Strangely,I don't need to do that on the CTC site.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Post by Jem on Jun 14, 2015 8:46:45 GMT
My mistake -I think it's something to do with the fact that I don't have Facebook.
Any chance you could summarise or copy and paste the content for us none Facebookers?
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Post by velocipete on Jun 14, 2015 11:22:40 GMT
Sorry Jem,I've tried,no luck. Hopefully one of our more facebook savvy members will be along to sort it.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Post by cusqueno on Jun 14, 2015 11:42:25 GMT
Wouldn't work for me and I have an FB account. I found it by going back through the Steel is Real posts on FB. Bike is that lovely shade of maroon used on some Lamberts with white on the head and seat tubes and an updated version of the badge. It's called Tourist Trophy, with flat bars, Sturmey Archer gears & a Brooke's saddle.
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Post by velocipete on Jun 14, 2015 11:54:25 GMT
Thanks for the description John.My colour vision is rubbish.
A fine looking bike.
Cheers,
Pete.
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Post by cusqueno on Jun 14, 2015 14:12:12 GMT
'Maroon' isn't really right. The colour looks the same as Scott's Lambert on Flickr. flic.kr/p/nQLmnX |
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