bendo
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Post by bendo on Jan 25, 2017 14:37:34 GMT
*Not including folders like Spacemasters.
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bendo
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Post by bendo on Jan 25, 2017 14:39:06 GMT
If you have more than one Viscount and they have different wheel sizes, vote for either the majority or for your favourite.
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Post by sprockit on Jan 25, 2017 16:30:55 GMT
All 27", but my Sprint has a 700c on the rear.
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Post by dracco on Jan 25, 2017 18:42:48 GMT
I have 700c by default, in that these were on the bike when I acquired it. My other ride (not a Viscount) has 27"
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Post by oldroadietehachapi on Jan 26, 2017 6:37:20 GMT
Since my Viscount originally had sewups, 700c seems best. My second Viscount may end up with 27s simply because I have a set hanging in my shop.
Cheers
Jim
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Post by cusqueno on Jan 26, 2017 22:43:06 GMT
I try to keep to what was original, which means that most are 27", apart from a couple with tubs. But I wasn't sorry when my last purchase - a Viscount mixte - came with 700c wheels. Just for the larger range of tyres available.
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bendo
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Post by bendo on Jan 27, 2017 0:13:09 GMT
Yes the range offered in 700c is the thing. b
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jmac
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Post by jmac on Jan 27, 2017 15:39:08 GMT
700 on my Viscount as the amount of tyres available is the deciding factor.
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Post by triitout on Jan 27, 2017 15:54:50 GMT
I've kept the original 27" wheels that came with the bikes and put on 700c (Weinman LP-18 rim, sealed bearings modern wheels) where I needed new wheel sets on my most ridden modern setup Pro and GP. Different wheel sets make a big difference in my eyes in terms of performance. Nothing wrong with going a bit slower and easier on the old 27" wheels, but when I want to be a bit more racey, I go 700c.
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Post by 54roadie on Jan 27, 2017 18:46:39 GMT
I have three Viscounts, one is original 27" clincher, still all original (except for inner tubes and one spoke to replace a broken one) including the roughly 40 year old IRC tires. One is tubular and the last will be 700c when it gets off the rack.
The Aerospace Gran Prix, with the original stuff, will need a wheel rebuild by the end of this season, if not sooner. Hmmm...700 then, or stay with the 27s? I go back and forth. Probably stay, as the other wheel won't need to be redone, I like things to match reasonably, and I've got a couple of wheel projects coming up to keep me busy enough. On the other hand, with 700's I could possibly run a wider tire for the gravel portions of some area trails...
Tie score.
Frank
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foss
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Post by foss on Jan 27, 2017 19:56:40 GMT
Biscuit came to me with 700c so that's what she's wearing.
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rmw
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Post by rmw on Jan 27, 2017 21:33:16 GMT
27 x 1.25 damn, how do I get a little 1/4 on my keyboard?
Ideally with Michelin Speed 50 tyres, which is what it had to start with, but now usually World Tours cos that is what is readily available. There were quite a few 27" tyres available at Eroica last year.
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bendo
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Post by bendo on Jan 28, 2017 0:02:24 GMT
Y'all gotta get some new tyres! Although it's true there are more options in 700c in terms of brands and materials, width is limited by frame clearance. The widest you're going to fit into an Aerospace frame is 1.25" (32mm) regardless of whether you're running 700c or 27".
If you're still running IRC or Michelin World Tours, I can't encourage you enough to try a pair of Panaracer Paselas. They are well worth the expense. And unlike the more common brands they're available in 1" (25mm), 1 & 1/8" (28mm) and 1.25". Tyres and wheels have a huge impact on ride quality. Paselas are much more supple than any other 27" option, and the beadless (folding) ones are lighter still. Combined them with a pair of latex tubes if you really want to go all out! The good thing about tubes is you can use 700c tubes on a 27" rim no worries, giving you lots more options. b
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Post by vtchuck on Jan 28, 2017 17:47:21 GMT
I have 2 sets of wheels for my Viscount: 27x1 1/4 Arraya rims w/ 27x1 1/8 tires and 700c Mavic Module E w/ 700cx23 tires.
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Post by sprockit on Jan 28, 2017 23:50:34 GMT
. . . The widest you're going to fit into an Aerospace frame is 1.25" (32mm) regardless of whether you're running 700c or 27". My Bilston-built Aerospace International won't take a Michelin World Tour 27 x 1 1/4 (32-630) tyre on the rear wheel as the chain stay gap is too narrow, whereas my Potters Bar-built Aerospace 400 does have sufficient clearance. Other 27 x 1 1/4 tyres do fit, but it's trial and error. Does anyone know if Michelin have discontinued the World Tour 27 x 1 1/8 (28-630) as nobody seems to stock them any more? |
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bendo
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Post by bendo on Jan 29, 2017 10:18:00 GMT
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Post by robt on Jan 29, 2017 13:17:46 GMT
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Post by busaste on Feb 14, 2017 13:55:20 GMT
I think 27" tyres look better on the Aerospace frames. The gaps between tyres and frames just look right to my eye. If you look carefully at the Supabike brochure you can see that the Dura Ace front caliper barely reaches a 700C rim clamped to a death fork. I suspect when Lambert designed the Aerospace frames they were 'optimised' around 27" wheels.
Ride wise I've found that factors like a tyre's grip, rigidity, profile, tread depth and air pressure have more impact on things like ride quality and speed than the diameter of the rim.
I'm a big fan of Pasela and Schwalbe tyres with - OF COURSE - gum walls. Any other colour is inconceivable!
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foss
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Post by foss on Feb 26, 2017 16:12:21 GMT
I noticed on the spec sheet for the 600EX that John put up that the bike came with 700c and was fitted with Clement 'Gentlemen' tyres . I just did a search and found these ...https://www.westbrookcycles.co.uk/clement-strada-lgg-clincher-road-tyre-p285353
There is an options box and they can come with tan sidewalls .
Has anyone seen these or tried them ?
Ade
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Post by cusqueno on Feb 26, 2017 18:10:52 GMT
The black/Tan ones look like nice tyres. A bit more than I normally pay (good to see on the Westbrook web page that 'finance available'), but then I am notoriously tight with money.
Incidentally, my 600ex came with 27 1/4" rims.
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Post by Stella on Feb 28, 2017 15:19:00 GMT
27 1 1/4 all the way. If I ever got a Pro that came with 700c originally, then I'd go 700c, of course.
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Post by Stella on Feb 28, 2017 15:20:19 GMT
I must admit to not liking them too much. Personally, I prefer the Schwalbe Active or, even better, the cheap and cheerful Raleigh tyres I got on my GP. Love them dearly. |
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Post by Sylvie on Feb 28, 2017 15:57:53 GMT
27 x 1 1/8 Continental Ultra Sports on my Grand Sport. The original tyres were 27 x 1 by Clément, although I don't remember the exact type.
(If you want to use a small ¼ Rona, assuming you use Windoze, aargh ! All Programs > Accessories > System Tools > Character Map and select the appropriate font. Highlight the character you want, press 'Select' button then press 'Copy' button. Paste the character in your text at the relevant place, although as you can see from the point size of this text it's a bit too tiny. I gave up on Windoze at XP so after that it's anyone's guess, Linux user now as it's a free OS and likes old hardware !).
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Post by vtchuck on Feb 28, 2017 21:20:27 GMT
The problem is that if you want 27x1 tires with tan sidewalls, Paselas are the only game in town. IMHO the 27x1's are closer to 27x11/8". Not a fan, but I have them on my PX-10.
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Post by biggs682 on Mar 1, 2017 19:34:39 GMT
My recent purchase an Aerospace 600ex is running 700's
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Post by bowie on May 22, 2017 7:20:14 GMT
Mine actually had a set of 27 X 1" rims on it.
I was having to import Panasonic Panracers from the states. I got board of that, 700c make so much sense in this colonial outpost.
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