Jem
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Post by Jem on Jul 16, 2016 21:07:32 GMT
I was very taken by the saddle on Ray's wife's Tony Doyle last weekend, it was a Selle Turbo in tan suede.
It made me wonder which modern saddles have the classic look, and could be 'in-keeping' with a Viscount -although I guess it depends on whether we are talking circa '75 or '82.
I had a Velo Orange Gran Touring microfibre saddle for a while , and it looked great...then my son pointed out that it would look better on his bike.
The Charge Spoon that I have, just about works but isn't particularly 'retro'.
Any other suggestions?
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Post by oldroadietehachapi on Jul 17, 2016 6:25:32 GMT
Many will work, I can only say what I like. My favorite saddles for my classic bikes are the Brooks B17 Imperial and the Selle Anatomica X.
They look right and are very comfortable on my bum.
I wish I could find a modern lightweight saddle with the same level of comfort.
All the Best Jim
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Post by velocipete on Jul 17, 2016 6:52:56 GMT
It's got to be any leather Brookes saddle. I've got a B17 Pro on my Aerospace Pro and a Brookes Swift on my Sport. That's about as comfortable as a leather saddle goes. Cheers, Pete.
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robt
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Post by robt on Jul 18, 2016 22:56:43 GMT
Jem,
I'd suggest you try to sample a Brooks Cambium C15 in black or slate if you can. I have a C17 that I have used on the Victor, and it is undoubtedly more comfortable than the Charge Spoon that I have on my old MTB (but then it should be with an RRP about 5 times that of the Spoon). The Cambium feels firm when I first sit down onto it, but then it just does its job when I'm riding and I forget about it altogether. The C17 may not be quite as cosseting as my old but well cared for B17, but there is no 'breaking in' or waterproofing required.
I don't know if the Sport or Pro came with leather upholstery as standard, but my Sebring originally came with a particularly firm and painful plastic-based saddle with a very thin overlay of softer black vinyl that looked as though the quilting effect had been added with a soldering iron. You're welcome to borrow it if you're looking for an original Viscount saddle!
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Jem
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Post by Jem on Jul 19, 2016 5:44:33 GMT
Cheers Rob - My wife's Sebring came with that exact same saddle you mention. It didn't last long for her before I put a more modern , broader saddle on for her.
I am not so much after the original saddle as the 'original look' with modern convenience/comfort, and wondered what options there are. I take Pete and Jim's point that you can't go wrong with a Brooks because they have the same look they have always had.
thanks all
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Post by oldroadietehachapi on Jul 19, 2016 6:03:49 GMT
Trying to save a few bucks, I tried a Gyes leather saddle crowcycleco.com/bicycle-components/saddles-seats/ they can be cheaper than a Brooks, but they are also cheaper than a Brooks. They are the most difficult saddle to break in that I have yet to encounter; the leather is hard like plastic. My old trick of soaking difficult saddles in a bucket of Neatsfoot oil did not help. I will not buy another. Cheers Jim
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Post by cusqueno on Jul 19, 2016 11:13:09 GMT
Yes those 'quilted' plastic saddles were used on mid-range Viscounts and they aren't good. I had some instructions from a friend on rejuvenating hard old leather saddles. Unfortunately I can't find the instructions at the moment but, IIRC, the first step was soaking in water to clean, followed by re-shaping, drying and feeding with Prufhide / neats foot oil or your treatment of choice. I guess you might not want to do that with a new saddle though.
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bendo
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Post by bendo on Jul 24, 2016 10:39:07 GMT
I'm a massive Ideale fan myself (and VERY happy that the company is being revived: www.victoire-cycles.com/en/news/come-back-id%C3%A9ale-saddles.html) but it really doesn't make sense to tell put a French saddle on an English bike. So for most people I would say Brooks is the way to go. The other good options are the Italian saddles of the era that have been reissued in the last view years, namely the Selle Italia Turbo (edit:whoops! Just realised this was the saddle that sooper8 was talking about!) and the three Selle San Marco classics, the Concor Supercorsa, the Regal and the Rolls. All these seats are plastic shelled seat with leather covering, and some small amount of padded material. This style of seat I find more immediately comfy that leather saddles like Brooks or Ideale, but the latter are preferrable over time (and distance). b
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Post by 54roadie on Jul 27, 2016 3:13:59 GMT
I just put an original Concor Supercorsa on a bike. Dug it out of the parts bin, rode it for about 100 miles, and kept thinking, the entire time on every ride: "why did I like this saddle so much, back then?" Can not now get comfortable at all on it. Put on a Brooks, used, still hard to flex by hand but very nice when I'm riding it. It stays on.
A friend really likes his new Cambium C17. Says his bum is comfy on rides up to about 150 - 175 miles, but no farther.
I have a Turbo on a different bike, I need to put some tires on it and ride a few hundred miles or so, but I've ridden that bike on Century rides without complaint. A Rolls version might be a bit better.
On the other hand, losing another stone would make everything just that much better, wouldn't it?
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Post by vtchuck on Jul 29, 2016 21:16:57 GMT
I've seen a lot of nice vintage look saddles from PlanetX (UK) at very good prices.... Have purchased 2 of their Holdsworth brand retro cranksets. Reasonably priced even w/ shipping to the US.
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Post by kickstandman on Jul 30, 2016 1:45:58 GMT
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Post by vtchuck on Jul 30, 2016 12:02:10 GMT
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Post by lewisg on Aug 17, 2016 19:07:14 GMT
I definitely think just about any of the older Selle San Marco models look the part and there are cheap versions of all of them around. Of course an ebay buy with a little patina could work even better.
Personally I'm going to stick to Avocet Racing saddles on my main bikes. Although they're of a later date they are super comfortable. As my Pro came to me with an Avocet saddle it is 'original' enough for me - plus there's a local connection to actual avocets which makes it cooler/sadder as you see fit.
I've basically decided that my newly acquired Lambert is going to get a Brooks as a nod to it's Grandad status in my bicycle family but can't make my mind up between a B17, B17 Narrow, or a Swallow - any comparisons (as well as Pete's) or advice would be appreciated. Maybe the Swallow to keep the bird theme running...
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Post by kickstandman on Aug 18, 2016 4:21:49 GMT
+1 On Avocets, we got a house bike this spring, vintage '70s but it had an Avocet on it, I had another bicycle with an Avocet. Good make. If they are a later date, it's just barely.
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Post by velocipete on Aug 18, 2016 6:33:30 GMT
Definitely the Swallow for me. My Pro has a B17 Professional fitted,but the Swallow on my red Sport is far more comfortable. Both the same usage over the years and general treatment(neglect). Just my dodgy backside? Cheers, Pete.
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Post by kickstandman on Sept 6, 2016 3:26:05 GMT
Brooks Cambium, what a price but at that, it is intriguing and if someone says it does the job, Robt. above, it probably does. I saw it at the store today. road.cc/content/review/115982-brooks-cambium-c17-saddle <--- Picture, these Brooks' are not the conventional leather saddles it seems. I saw also, there is a prior mention of VO possibly having come out with their own version. Chain Reaction Cycles has a version at a reasonable price if that is current. $113.
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Post by oldroadietehachapi on Nov 15, 2016 17:24:53 GMT
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Jem
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Post by Jem on Nov 16, 2016 19:28:26 GMT
I like the style of those, particularly the Mercia tourer. No outlets in the UK though.
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Post by kickstandman on Nov 17, 2016 20:30:50 GMT
minneapolis.craigslist.org/hnp/bik/5816731571.htmlHere's where this gent put new leather on which I think is a novel idea. One may look at it and be unsure but I give him credit for trying, perhaps untested, the asking price is too much. The saddle itself looks a bit grainy, pebbly to me. One would need to try it out. Before pictures too.
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