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Post by siegeworks on May 23, 2016 21:40:15 GMT
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Post by sprockit on May 23, 2016 22:13:15 GMT
Looks like one of the fillet-brased frames that were started by Lambert just before they went bust. The frames had no head tube and were acquired with all the jigs, parts and other assets by the Trusty Manufacturing Company Limited who then launched Viscount. The frames were completed using lugged head tubes and are arguably the best of the Lambert and Viscount frames.
If I remember correctly, Busaste recounted that many of them became the Sebring.
Busaste did all the research which he then posted on the vast CyclingUK forum, the Viscount section of which runs currently to 178 pages - 153 pages more than the next longest thread I know of on there!
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Post by Jem on May 24, 2016 4:40:49 GMT
The front lugged, rear brazed frames also the hallmark of the 'Victor'.
I don't like the look of that black tape on the top bar. What might be lurking underneath?
If anyone were buying it then you could offset the cost by reselling the bar end shifters as they seem to be fetching silly money. Although as I typed that I realised some of these did actually come out of the factory with them- you can see them on many North American examples but far less so over here.
EDIT- Just looked at pics more closely , I don't recall seeing a brazed on rear brake cable guide on the the Victor though, so not a Victor. This as Sprockit says is a very early one.
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Post by sprockit on May 24, 2016 21:02:41 GMT
Yes, I stand corrected thanks Jem, many of these frames were used for the Victor.
My thoughts are also "What's lurking under that black tape on the top tube?"
That head tube also looks a bit suspect.
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Post by cusqueno on May 24, 2016 21:35:01 GMT
If it was used for cx the tape on the top tube might just be to protect it and the rider or to make the bike easier to pick up and carry.
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Post by velocipete on May 25, 2016 6:37:02 GMT
CX would also explain the brazed on canti bosses on the rear forks and the brake cable bridge. If it was nearer I'd have a look and probably buy it. Cheers, Pete.
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Post by Jem on May 25, 2016 6:57:17 GMT
I'm sometimes up in Lincoln - will be up there in about 8 weeks if anyone wants it and doesn't mind waiting? (although I will have to check if the trains I take will carry bikes)
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Post by velocipete on May 25, 2016 14:23:36 GMT
Gone now. Who bought it then? I wonder ifit was a team CX bike. Cheers, Pete.
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Post by cusqueno on Jun 3, 2016 13:56:59 GMT
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Post by velocipete on Jun 3, 2016 18:10:19 GMT
That is sad. Mind I have enough bits to make an interestin CX type Viscount.Watching. Cheers, Pete.
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Post by sprockit on Jun 3, 2016 21:22:01 GMT
641868 - seems quite a high frame number - but not nearly as high as Mrs Sooper8's Mixte.
Fits into the sequence of some of the fillet-brazed frames from 1976/77.
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Post by siegeworks on Jun 4, 2016 23:16:50 GMT
If anyone was wondering what was beneath the tape then here is the answer, its not pretty! looks as if the the buyer has a project on the go and is now getting ride of the unwanted parts. A few other spares are on the users store.
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Post by Jem on Jun 5, 2016 9:37:57 GMT
I think he might not be getting the mark up he thought he would by parting it out. When you add in the time to disassemble and then photograph and list parts, then it isn't an easy way to earn money. Plus the fact that given decent photos and a proper listing, then the original bike might fetch nearly as much. Also , he might sell some bits and then be stuck with the 'lesser' parts on his hands?
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