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Post by oldroadietehachapi on Aug 27, 2015 2:07:33 GMT
Ok guys, it is like this, I have 14 bikes, all classic era except a nearly finished Cannondale System Six. Here is the rub, I ride with toe straps and clips and sometimes with toe straps and touring shoes without cleats. Using toe straps may look a bit silly on a modern high tech ride. So what shall I do? I just never caught on to clipless pedals. I have a very old set of Sampsons, but never liked them. Any ideas on what clipless system suites an old guy like me? Should I thumb my nose at the world and ride the beast with toe straps. What say ye all?
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Post by triitout on Aug 27, 2015 3:48:18 GMT
I'm in the same boat as you with never catching on to clip less pedals. How many times did I just fall over trying to get out of them??? I've got Speedplay pedals on my modern bikes and never got the hang of them so I attached Pyro Platform Pedals ( a fancy platform that's still basically toe clips and straps) to them. They were popular in the 90's for quick bike to run transitions in duathlons and sprint tri's and I never gave them up! I say thumb your nose and stay with toe straps. Don't fix what ain't broke  |
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Post by Jem on Aug 27, 2015 11:05:41 GMT
I don't really have any insight into this as I don't have any modern bikes....but that won't stop me getting involved  In an even more retrograde move, I am going to do away with the toe straps on my Viscount Deore 18AX (which will involve buying some pedal/crank adaptors so that I can get 'regular' 9/16" threaded pedals on the unique Deore cranks). See below The reason being that I don't want to have to think about what shoes I am wearing before hopping on any bike. My work shoes and Gor-Tex trainers won't fit in the toe straps. In fact, I only have one pair of shoes that I can use when riding that bike. I find cycle specific clothing can be great, but a bit limiting and frustrating at times. I can always swap back if I go on a long ride or a mini tour. I have been thinking about it for a while but decided a few weeks back when I had to carry a pair of shoes specifically to ride that bike to/from from a railway station and then carry bike shoes all around a city in my already heavy backpack. I think I'm what might be called a 'casual cyclist'.  Deore pedals by Sooper 8, on Flickr |
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Post by cusqueno on Aug 27, 2015 18:47:12 GMT
Jen, these are what you need - 1st gen Deore DD pedals. They have everything going for them - fit the 1 inch ax cranks and you can use them with or without clips. And, IMHO, they are cool as well. The pedals in the photos are attached to a DE20 double chain set. Attachments:
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Post by vtchuck on Aug 27, 2015 21:52:35 GMT
Not an issue for me....I have 3 pairs of cleated shoes, so I have never tried clip-less. and equipping 8 or 9 bikes with clip-less systems would be pretty expensive. My feet are large and wide, so I use quill pedals like Campy, KTT Top Run or MKS Slyvan. If you use colored straps and/or colored plastic clips, I think they look sharp even on a carbon frame: Lemond |
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Post by Jem on Aug 27, 2015 21:58:12 GMT
Jen, these are what you need - 1st gen Deore DD pedals. They have everything going for them - fit the 1 inch ax cranks and you can use them with or without clips. And, IMHO, they are cool as well. The pedals in the photos are attached to a DE20 double chain set. They do look very cool. Did you pick them up or were they on a bike you had? |
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Post by cusqueno on Aug 28, 2015 7:06:03 GMT
I bought the pedals. If I recall correctly they were with the chain set from VeloSaloon but they might have come separately from eBay.
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Post by 54roadie on Aug 28, 2015 9:09:54 GMT
OK, time for the other side to chime in - go clipless. Getting in and out is easy - put the bike on your trainer for a few days upon completion and practice about 50 or 100 times (50 on each foot, perhaps?) and you'll have it down as well as the little kick up with clips and straps.
The biggest problem you'll then have is when you go back and forth, but I've never fallen over, on either type, for that reason. (and trust me, I've done the Laugh-In style stupid fall far too many times to recall.)
I use Look Keo and Exustar Keo clones, on three bikes, as they are light, durable, easy to service, and I got them quite cheaply. I like them.
If you want shoes that you can walk around in, I'd get the Speedplay Syzr and put them on touring or mountain shoes. What ever you decide, have fun!
Frank
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Post by whippet on Aug 28, 2015 20:37:38 GMT
Another vote for modern clipless here. I've had knee problems in the past and find I get a better pedalling action with clipless. Look Keo are good ( I have them on my track bike ), for day to day touring a road riding i prefer Shimano SPD-SL though. Easy to get in and out off + the cleat is recessed into the show sole so you can walk normally in them.
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Post by oldroadietehachapi on Aug 29, 2015 5:09:38 GMT
Such good advice, thank you!
So many choices.
My wide (4E) foot loves my quill pedals. Did I mention that I really like the Velo Orange VO Road Pedals?
I think the Lemond looks great! Maybe that is the way.
I do think I would like to try some modern clipless pedals. I have been sticking my feet into toe clips for the last 52 years; Perhaps my muscle memory will adapt. What shall I try? I do want to walk in them.
Still Searching
Jim
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Post by 54roadie on Aug 29, 2015 7:28:01 GMT
The new Speedplay Syzr cleat fits recesses like the Shimano. Reviews are that they feel more solid than other brands, which is what I remember from my year with Speedplay Zero road pedals. I had problems and learned it was because I lived on a dirt & gravel road at the time, which their road cleats can't stand. The new ones are for ATBs and have cured the problems, as well as fitting nicely into those recesses in shoes you can walk around in. These will be the pedals on my next mountain bike, and I'll put them on a touring bike, and who knows where else.
enjoy!
Frank
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Post by triitout on Sept 1, 2015 1:03:35 GMT
Here's a link to my beloved Pyro Platforms pyroplatforms.com/Page2.htmlAll the float I need with the speedplay pedals which is good for the knees, with the comfort of a large, stable platform, velcro strap/toeclip style setup for my feet. While none of you guys have had a go at a triathlon except whippet, these are real time savers for me on the bike to run transition (T2 is my best event....yeah, everything is timed). I'm feeling mighty good about T2 at yesterdays Runner's Edge Tobay Triathlon, one of the most popular events here on Long Island. Second overall in T2 at 36.2 seconds out of 771 participants. Thanks Speedplay!  I wish I could say the same about mile 3 on the run  when I got dropped after going basically toe to toe with good buddy Mark in another futile attempt to make age group top 5. It was a great feeling being totally engaged and focused with each swim stroke, each pedal rotation and each stride. Too much time cycling and not enough running! Sorry to hijack the thread. I just get too hyped after an inspired race! |
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Post by bendo on Sept 3, 2015 2:53:43 GMT
Congrats triitout! Top effort. Back on topic... I'm a toe clips kind of guy, but I find clipless *looks* better on a modern ride. I know looks are probably the worst reason for doing anything, and I'm all for self expression and not doing whatever the Peloton expects. It's just that my aesthetic sense has a hard time with mismatched gear. Same goes for new stuff on old rides (carbon forks on a Pro frame an exception because that's for science...). Here are a couple of my experiences with borrowed rides. In the case of those 1st gen Deore DD pedals though, I think they would work with anything. Damn nice. b   |
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Post by cusqueno on Sept 3, 2015 15:43:07 GMT
there's an interesting article about the introduction of Look clipless pedals here. |
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I wish I could say the same about mile 3 on the run 
when I got dropped after going basically toe to toe with good buddy Mark in another futile attempt to make age group top 5. It was a great feeling being totally engaged and focused with each swim stroke, each pedal rotation and each stride. Too much time cycling and not enough running! 