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Post by Jem on Mar 14, 2015 15:06:14 GMT
Got a little package in the post today... image by Sooper 8, on Flickr All the way from Athens, Greece. NOS Suntour 14-32. When you factor in the free shipping, I think it was quite reasonable. Thanks to all for advice and Cusqueno for tip off. image by Sooper 8, on Flickr image by Sooper 8, on Flickr
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Post by velocipete on Mar 14, 2015 19:01:01 GMT
Nice.That should now last for the rest of your riding! Cheers, Pete.
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Post by Jem on Mar 28, 2015 13:38:42 GMT
Oh bugger!
I took this down to local bike shop today (I don't have the tool to remove screw on freewheel).
"No problem, we can do it today" . Got a phone call a bit later...."your rear wheel is cassette"
Nooooo! I didn't know that. I just presumed anything from 1981 would be screw on. I thought cassette's were relatively new technology? Maybe someone with more experience could have seen that just by looking at place where block meets hub?
So - I have a very nice unused NOS 32T Suntour screw on block for sale, and I am looking for a Shimano cassette with 32 teeth that will fit that wheel. Any thoughts/ideas?
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Post by triitout on Mar 28, 2015 14:19:17 GMT
You'll probably have an easier go with a cassette since shimno hyperglide cogs are still pretty available , unless it's the old uniglide cogs. Your LBS should be able to figure that out which system you have before you start looking. Sheldon Brown has great info on his website to make it all clear.
Cheers, Michael
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Post by velocipete on Mar 28, 2015 14:32:01 GMT
I've got some bits of Shimano cassettes in my box(es) of bits. I'll try and have a look tomorrow to see what's there. You're more than welcome to them.I'll pm you with what's there. Cheers, Pete.
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Post by Jem on Mar 28, 2015 16:55:32 GMT
Thanks both - Just been having a look at Sheldon Brown. It's a uniglide - so only chances are lightly used or NOS that have been sitting around since early 80's? And to find a 32tooth might be even harder than finding that Suntour NOS screw on one. I had no idea about this system. Thanks for offer Pete - I will weigh up my options and think how I might progress.
Another question - I was getting a bit of slippage on the old block (that, and the desire for a few more teeth to make hills slightly easier put me on this path) . Does this now seem more likely to have been the RD or can these uniglide blocks cause a slip too?
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Post by triitout on Mar 28, 2015 17:02:47 GMT
Could be a worn chain and worn cogs. The beauty of uniglide is you just flip the cog over and you have a brand new cog. In essence two for the price of one! Try that with a new chain and you should see an improvement. There is a 12-30 uniglide set with a chain on ebay.com that may be good.
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Post by cusqueno on Mar 28, 2015 17:41:00 GMT
My 600ex and the old Aerospace 400 both have / had UG cassettes. IMHO, if you're only running six speed they are better than HG for the reason that Pete said. And they're a bit more rugged anyway. Availability is reasonable on eBay or try a general or retro bike forum. If it's not obvious, the smallest cog is threaded and holds all the others on. You will need two chain whips to get them off - one to hold the cassette, the other to unscrew the locking cog. UG cogs fit on HG hubs but not the other way round - unless you file out the small slot: which would be an option so that you could use the more commonly available HGs. Note that HGs are supposed not to be interchangeable and must be put in the correct orientations for the best shifting. If you're bothered.
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Post by cusqueno on Mar 28, 2015 18:22:22 GMT
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Post by Jem on Mar 28, 2015 18:36:51 GMT
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Post by cusqueno on Mar 28, 2015 18:55:40 GMT
Sometimes, if you buy a complete set, the three largest are held together by three long, thin screws or sometimes I believe riveted. These do not serve any other function apart from holding them together for convenience and can be removed and left out. Once you have unscrewed the smallest cog (using two chain whips or improvised chain whips), all the others can be lifted off the free hub. There are a range of UG cogs &c available on eBay UK Note that Dura Ace UG free hubs are different from the other ones. I think it is just in the thread of the smallest, locking cog, but DA cogs might not all fit non-DA hubs. Sorry that my previous link didn't do what I had intended, but you found the cogs anyway.
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Post by Jem on Mar 28, 2015 19:22:25 GMT
That was quite a steep learning curve, but I think I have the hang of it now John, thanks for that explanation.
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Post by velocipete on Mar 28, 2015 20:39:16 GMT
There's quite a bit on this mix and match,build your own cassette on the ctc site. Brucey is your friend for this. Mostly they are trying to keep 8/9 speed stuff future proof,but the same pinciples apply to 6/7 speed. Just make sure the spacers are correct for the number of gears required.As John has said,drill the rivets out, or remove the fine bolts.Place cogs of required size on to the freehub, with spacers and refit locking cog. You may need to utilize a couple of cassettes to get the spread of gears you need. I'll see what I've got kicking about tomorrow. Cheers, Pete.
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Post by cusqueno on Mar 29, 2015 11:45:09 GMT
+1 to Pete for the advice on spacers. There's a 32 tooth UG cog on eBay as item 271777446954. In the US so cost inc p&p might be more than you'd want to pay.
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Post by Jem on Mar 29, 2015 15:56:59 GMT
+1 to Pete for the advice on spacers. There's a 32 tooth UG cog on eBay as item 271777446954. In the US so cost inc p&p might be more than you'd want to pay. Mmh, a bit on the steep side but thanks for link. I will give it some thought. I need to sleep on this conundrum I think. Just about to eBay some unwanted bike bits now to raise funds. (nothing Viscount related, just the Suntour freewheel, a Carradice big saddle bag and a carradice bag support).
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Post by velocipete on Mar 29, 2015 17:11:49 GMT
Not managed to get into the garage due to no lighting. Management decided that some ivy needed to be trimmed,so I managed to cut into the power cable from the garage to the "shed". Oh the joy of dodgy colour vision,couldn't tell the cable from the branch. Small pop,no lights out there until sparkie stops playing his magic piano and gets here! Well,that's a good way to get out of further pruning! Cheers, Pete.
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