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Post by brianbutler on Oct 13, 2021 1:37:30 GMT
My least favorite tool on the pegboard is the bottom bracket lockring tool. The three-hook end never seems to line up with lockrings I encounter and even when it does I find it frustrating to line up all three hooks at once so I use the single hook end. Then I have trouble keeping the skinny hook in the skinny notch while lining up the skinny curved section with the skinny lockring. Oh, yeah, then you have to apply pressure, usually from a very cumbersome angle. It usually slips off several times. I am afraid to tighten as much as I should because this tool is part A of a knuckle scraping kit, part B being a sharp object on the bike frame.
Is there a better tool, or a better technique, or do I just need to put in the ten thousand hours of practice to become an expert with it?
Brian
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Post by oldroadietehachapi on Oct 13, 2021 5:44:08 GMT
I have not found a significantly better tool; nevertheless. The Hozan C-205 is more solid; this helps a bit. I find if you have the bottom bracket shell firmly locked in place, you are far less likely to slip. I usually give the tool a little tap with a mallet to break the ring loose.
All the Best Jim
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Post by brianbutler on Oct 13, 2021 10:45:54 GMT
All good advice, Jim. Thanks. I like the width of the Hozan and the placement of the hooks relative to the handle (i.e. inline, instead of wrapped around at an angle). I'll get one of these. I hadn't thought about immobilizing the BB shell but obviously that could be a big part of the problem. Funny the things you DON'T notice. What is your technique?
Brian
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Post by oldroadietehachapi on Oct 13, 2021 14:19:59 GMT
I have a bike repair stand which works well for most tasks, but allows the frame to move about for heavy work. For heavy work, I prefer to use my bench mount repair stand. For a stubborn bottom bracket, I mount the frame as close to the bottom bracket as possible; this steadies the work. Once the frame is secure I place the tool on the lock ring. I give it a tap with a mallet and reposition the toll with each tap. It is a tap, tap, tap, ouch, sort of thing.
All the Best
Jim
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Post by wheelson on Oct 13, 2021 18:45:09 GMT
I have a bike repair stand which works well for most tasks, but allows the frame to move about for heavy work. For heavy work, I prefer to use my bench mount repair stand. For a stubborn bottom bracket, I mount the frame as close to the bottom bracket as possible; this steadies the work. Once the frame is secure I place the tool on the lock ring. I give it a tap with a mallet and reposition the toll with each tap. It is a tap, tap, tap, ouch, sort of thing. All the Best Jim Good practice, Jim. Many times in the shop I get bikes in all sorts of condition. Then it’s a hammer and a chisel and very hard taps. That’s the last resort and requires a ring replacement. An intermediate try might include spacing up a large washer or bushing held on by the crank bolt to keep the tool from sliding off. Creativity is always the order of the day. Best, John “wheelson” |
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Post by brianbutler on Nov 2, 2021 0:57:33 GMT
Update: I bought the Hozan C-205 tool and used it on both the headset lockring and bottom bracket lockring on a current project (1973ish Sekine SHT). This is a nice tool for the collection. Thanks again for the advice, Jim.
Brian
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Post by oldroadietehachapi on Nov 2, 2021 22:47:52 GMT
Your welcome! I like mine as well.
Jim
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Post by cusqueno on Nov 5, 2021 11:27:36 GMT
In the UK the Hozan tool seems very expensive and not many are on sale from this country - the cheapest one I found posting from the UK was £36. Otherwise expensive postage from Japan or the US. I already have a basic lock ring tool, which is not much good, but inspired by this conversation I decided to buy a cheaper one. This has the advantage that it also handles other old types of BB lock rings (arriving today so not yet tested!) |
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Post by oldroadietehachapi on Nov 5, 2021 14:03:49 GMT
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Post by Jem on Nov 5, 2021 14:53:20 GMT
You might get a similar result as the Hozan, by joining (side to side) two cheap flat plate lock ring wrenches with JB Weld.
You mentioned JB Weld on another thread a while ago Jim, and I am a convert since then. It's next level up from Sugru. |
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